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	<title>Comments on: How to Determine the Master Browser in a Windows Workgroup</title>
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		<title>By: Tuomas</title>
		<link>http://scottiestech.info/2009/02/14/how-to-determine-the-master-browser-in-a-windows-workgroup/comment-page-2/#comment-1195</link>
		<dc:creator>Tuomas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Apr 2012 08:22:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you very much for this article! It helped me sort out a real pain.

At home, in a LAN of five devices, I have a Windows 7 desktop PC that kept dropping its network connection once a day, every day. I found out from the System log that a &quot;forced election&quot; event (ID 8033, source BROWSER) took place at the exact same time, so I set to work trying to stop the event from occurring at all. I tried everything from stopping services to registry hacks to no avail.

After trying for days I gave up, but some weeks later I came across this article and everything clicked into place.

As I ran nbtstat on the PC, I found out it was not part of the LAN&#039;s workgroup, but in the Windows default workgroup (d&#039;oh!!). This meant the PC was the master browser in WORKGROUP, but in the primary workgroup a NAS was the master. Every time at 9.45 PM that NAS shut down, and in less than an hour the election happened; the election time varied, so I did not suspect the NAS was involved at all.

I moved the PC into the primary workgroup and all is well. Thanks again!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you very much for this article! It helped me sort out a real pain.</p>
<p>At home, in a LAN of five devices, I have a Windows 7 desktop PC that kept dropping its network connection once a day, every day. I found out from the System log that a &#8220;forced election&#8221; event (ID 8033, source BROWSER) took place at the exact same time, so I set to work trying to stop the event from occurring at all. I tried everything from stopping services to registry hacks to no avail.</p>
<p>After trying for days I gave up, but some weeks later I came across this article and everything clicked into place.</p>
<p>As I ran nbtstat on the PC, I found out it was not part of the LAN&#8217;s workgroup, but in the Windows default workgroup (d&#8217;oh!!). This meant the PC was the master browser in WORKGROUP, but in the primary workgroup a NAS was the master. Every time at 9.45 PM that NAS shut down, and in less than an hour the election happened; the election time varied, so I did not suspect the NAS was involved at all.</p>
<p>I moved the PC into the primary workgroup and all is well. Thanks again!</p>
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		<title>By: Tuomas</title>
		<link>http://scottiestech.info/2009/02/14/how-to-determine-the-master-browser-in-a-windows-workgroup/comment-page-1/#comment-1194</link>
		<dc:creator>Tuomas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Apr 2012 08:09:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1121&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@Jeff&lt;/a&gt; 

Hi Jeff,

I had this issue as a side-effect of another problem I had. If you&#039;re using workgroups, check that the PC and the NAS are in the same one, otherwise Windows won&#039;t show the NAS in Network even if the PC can connect to the NAS just fine.

Hope this helps!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-1121" rel="nofollow">@Jeff</a> </p>
<p>Hi Jeff,</p>
<p>I had this issue as a side-effect of another problem I had. If you&#8217;re using workgroups, check that the PC and the NAS are in the same one, otherwise Windows won&#8217;t show the NAS in Network even if the PC can connect to the NAS just fine.</p>
<p>Hope this helps!</p>
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		<title>By: Tuomas</title>
		<link>http://scottiestech.info/2009/02/14/how-to-determine-the-master-browser-in-a-windows-workgroup/comment-page-1/#comment-1193</link>
		<dc:creator>Tuomas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Apr 2012 08:03:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you very much for this article! It helped me sort out a real pain.

A Win7 desktop PC I have at home kept dropping its LAN connection once a day, every day. Windows logs showed that a &quot;forced election&quot; (event ID 8033, source BROWSER) took place at that exact moment, so I tried everything from stopping services to hacking the registry to prevent that - all for naught.

I gave up when I thought there was nothing more I could try, but weeks later I came across this article and everything clicked into place.

As I ran the commands, I discovered that the desktop was in the Windows default WORKGROUP instead of my home workgroup (d&#039;oh!!), and was the only machine and hence the master browser of that workgroup. Every night when the wired NAS - the master browser of the primary workgroup - shut down, the election happened with a slight delay, hence why I didn&#039;t even suspect this.

At any rate, moving the PC into the primary workgroup stopped the forced elections and I couldn&#039;t be happier. Thanks again!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you very much for this article! It helped me sort out a real pain.</p>
<p>A Win7 desktop PC I have at home kept dropping its LAN connection once a day, every day. Windows logs showed that a &#8220;forced election&#8221; (event ID 8033, source BROWSER) took place at that exact moment, so I tried everything from stopping services to hacking the registry to prevent that &#8211; all for naught.</p>
<p>I gave up when I thought there was nothing more I could try, but weeks later I came across this article and everything clicked into place.</p>
<p>As I ran the commands, I discovered that the desktop was in the Windows default WORKGROUP instead of my home workgroup (d&#8217;oh!!), and was the only machine and hence the master browser of that workgroup. Every night when the wired NAS &#8211; the master browser of the primary workgroup &#8211; shut down, the election happened with a slight delay, hence why I didn&#8217;t even suspect this.</p>
<p>At any rate, moving the PC into the primary workgroup stopped the forced elections and I couldn&#8217;t be happier. Thanks again!</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff</title>
		<link>http://scottiestech.info/2009/02/14/how-to-determine-the-master-browser-in-a-windows-workgroup/comment-page-1/#comment-1121</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Feb 2012 19:25:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello! I attempted to use your tool to figure out my network issue of NAS not showing up in explorer under network, but i received this error:
-System error 53 occurred
-The network path was not found.

I have W7 Ultimate, x64, windows installed on C drive and your EXE in the C drive. Also, right clicked and ran as administrator.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello! I attempted to use your tool to figure out my network issue of NAS not showing up in explorer under network, but i received this error:<br />
-System error 53 occurred<br />
-The network path was not found.</p>
<p>I have W7 Ultimate, x64, windows installed on C drive and your EXE in the C drive. Also, right clicked and ran as administrator.</p>
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		<title>By: alegh</title>
		<link>http://scottiestech.info/2009/02/14/how-to-determine-the-master-browser-in-a-windows-workgroup/comment-page-1/#comment-930</link>
		<dc:creator>alegh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Oct 2011 17:38:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Scottie, thanks for this script.  I had to find a VM with 2000 on it to run  browstat.   Your script runs on my Win7x64 machine just fine, and helped me track down the master browser and eligible servers.  A quick flush of the DNS on the master browser cleared up a lot of problems.  Nice to know I can run this off my slightly more modern computer without having to dust off browstat.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Scottie, thanks for this script.  I had to find a VM with 2000 on it to run  browstat.   Your script runs on my Win7x64 machine just fine, and helped me track down the master browser and eligible servers.  A quick flush of the DNS on the master browser cleared up a lot of problems.  Nice to know I can run this off my slightly more modern computer without having to dust off browstat.</p>
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		<title>By: John_bud</title>
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		<dc:creator>John_bud</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Oct 2011 14:13:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi,  I&#039;ve been turning my hair-doo into a mohawk because of a networking issue!  Would really like to get some advice.

The network runs off a Buffalo router.  4 computers and 1 NAS.  Only one computer has an issue.  (It can&#039;t connect to the WD mybooklive NAS.)  

I&#039;ve simplified the network by turning off 2 of the computers.

Computer &quot;JOHNS&quot; has the issue.  It&#039;s running win xp 32 bit sp3.
Computer &quot;ASI-JAMES&quot; is fine.  It&#039;s running XP pro 64 bit (up to date)
The NAS is operating fine and accessible by computers 2, 3 &amp;4.

NOTE: the other computers are #3 Vista laptop (no problem) and W7 64 bit laptop (no problems)

Here&#039;s output from your program

LANscanner v1.3 - ScottiesTech.Info

Scanning LAN...

ASI-JAMESB        192.168.1.101  00-08-54-8E-DC-99  MSHOME   
JOHNS             192.168.1.111  00-E0-18-ED-A0-B6  MSHOME  MASTER
MYBOOKLIVE        192.168.1.148              

Press any key to exit...

From &quot;JOHNS&quot;  pinging &quot;MYBOOKLIVE&quot; fails. Pinging the router and &quot;ASI-JAMESB&quot; succeed.  Mapping to it also fails.  and using the WD install program to discover the NAS also fails.  

From &quot;ASI-JAMESB&quot; (and the other computers) pinging &quot;MYBOOKLIVE&quot; succeeds.  It can be mapped and the WD program discovered it just fine.  Data can be written to and read from the NAS.   In fact,  the ASI-JAMESB computer can copy files from the JOHNS computer and write them onto the NAS.

Help!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi,  I&#8217;ve been turning my hair-doo into a mohawk because of a networking issue!  Would really like to get some advice.</p>
<p>The network runs off a Buffalo router.  4 computers and 1 NAS.  Only one computer has an issue.  (It can&#8217;t connect to the WD mybooklive NAS.)  </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve simplified the network by turning off 2 of the computers.</p>
<p>Computer &#8220;JOHNS&#8221; has the issue.  It&#8217;s running win xp 32 bit sp3.<br />
Computer &#8220;ASI-JAMES&#8221; is fine.  It&#8217;s running XP pro 64 bit (up to date)<br />
The NAS is operating fine and accessible by computers 2, 3 &amp;4.</p>
<p>NOTE: the other computers are #3 Vista laptop (no problem) and W7 64 bit laptop (no problems)</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s output from your program</p>
<p>LANscanner v1.3 &#8211; ScottiesTech.Info</p>
<p>Scanning LAN&#8230;</p>
<p>ASI-JAMESB        192.168.1.101  00-08-54-8E-DC-99  MSHOME<br />
JOHNS             192.168.1.111  00-E0-18-ED-A0-B6  MSHOME  MASTER<br />
MYBOOKLIVE        192.168.1.148              </p>
<p>Press any key to exit&#8230;</p>
<p>From &#8220;JOHNS&#8221;  pinging &#8220;MYBOOKLIVE&#8221; fails. Pinging the router and &#8220;ASI-JAMESB&#8221; succeed.  Mapping to it also fails.  and using the WD install program to discover the NAS also fails.  </p>
<p>From &#8220;ASI-JAMESB&#8221; (and the other computers) pinging &#8220;MYBOOKLIVE&#8221; succeeds.  It can be mapped and the WD program discovered it just fine.  Data can be written to and read from the NAS.   In fact,  the ASI-JAMESB computer can copy files from the JOHNS computer and write them onto the NAS.</p>
<p>Help!</p>
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		<title>By: Scottie</title>
		<link>http://scottiestech.info/2009/02/14/how-to-determine-the-master-browser-in-a-windows-workgroup/comment-page-1/#comment-896</link>
		<dc:creator>Scottie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Sep 2011 11:04:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What OS(es) are all your PCs running?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What OS(es) are all your PCs running?</p>
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		<title>By: Kyle Degraaf</title>
		<link>http://scottiestech.info/2009/02/14/how-to-determine-the-master-browser-in-a-windows-workgroup/comment-page-1/#comment-895</link>
		<dc:creator>Kyle Degraaf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Sep 2011 14:39:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice app! I think I found a bug. When I run version 1.3 on our network, one PC has no MAC listed, and then two PCs have 00-00-00-00-00-00 listed as their MAC address. Let me know what I can do to help you resolve that. Thanks!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice app! I think I found a bug. When I run version 1.3 on our network, one PC has no MAC listed, and then two PCs have 00-00-00-00-00-00 listed as their MAC address. Let me know what I can do to help you resolve that. Thanks!</p>
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		<title>By: Scottie</title>
		<link>http://scottiestech.info/2009/02/14/how-to-determine-the-master-browser-in-a-windows-workgroup/comment-page-1/#comment-801</link>
		<dc:creator>Scottie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jun 2011 15:54:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmm, I dunno... If I had to guess, I&#039;d say that maybe WHS is doing something weird with the Master Browser stuff. Unfortunately, I don&#039;t have WHS and have never played around with it. Of course, one way to figure out if WHS is the problem is to disconnect it from the network, wait a few minutes, and then try again with LANscanner. If it works, at least you know where the problem is. If not, rinse and repeat with the other puters.

That&#039;s what I&#039;d try, anyway!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmm, I dunno&#8230; If I had to guess, I&#8217;d say that maybe WHS is doing something weird with the Master Browser stuff. Unfortunately, I don&#8217;t have WHS and have never played around with it. Of course, one way to figure out if WHS is the problem is to disconnect it from the network, wait a few minutes, and then try again with LANscanner. If it works, at least you know where the problem is. If not, rinse and repeat with the other puters.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s what I&#8217;d try, anyway!</p>
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		<title>By: Scottie</title>
		<link>http://scottiestech.info/2009/02/14/how-to-determine-the-master-browser-in-a-windows-workgroup/comment-page-1/#comment-800</link>
		<dc:creator>Scottie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jun 2011 15:44:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, that might be because of VirtualBox&#039;s crazy ethernet driver that it loads.

On my machine, LANscanner works REALLY, REALLY slowly if I have the &quot;VirtualBox Host-Only Network&quot; adapter enabled in Network &amp; Sharing Center -&gt; Change adapter settings.

Disabling the Vbox adapter doesn&#039;t break Vbox at all, and then LANscanner works fine. Dunno why, though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, that might be because of VirtualBox&#8217;s crazy ethernet driver that it loads.</p>
<p>On my machine, LANscanner works REALLY, REALLY slowly if I have the &#8220;VirtualBox Host-Only Network&#8221; adapter enabled in Network &amp; Sharing Center -&gt; Change adapter settings.</p>
<p>Disabling the Vbox adapter doesn&#8217;t break Vbox at all, and then LANscanner works fine. Dunno why, though.</p>
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